The tides were late that day and Rich wanted to fish from 2:00 P.M. through past dark. We chose to visit Derek in Big Pine in the morning to get the interview for the TV episode. We hit the water at Hawks Cay and headed to Long Key Bridge. Derek was hoping to get a bite on a live mullet because he had never seen that happen before.
Derek is one of my favorite guests, and soon, we became fast friends. I knew I wanted to do a podcast with him, but it seemed like we had run out of time. I offered him a ride back to Big Pine instead of his wife having to pick him up, and we put on the headphones and hit record.
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